I'm not sure if its in the correct spot but there's an extra kill in season 6. It was in episode 2 when he kicked the terrorist out of the plane. I just wanted to let you know.
Wow, yeah, you must think that we are fairly retard if we missed that one, huh? It does not count as a kill, because the guy efing killed himself. And, he would have done so even if Jack wasn't there!
I wasn't thinking you were retarded about it. Its just that everyone I've talked to on other websites regards this as a kill. I always thought this is one of the best sites out there but sorry if I wasted your time with my "stupid observation". You should seriously consider working on your people skills especially if a simple observation can't be answered without a sarcastic and rude remark. Sorry I ever posted here.
I thought you were holding back while answering that guy's question. I guess I disregard your sarcastic and rude remarks automatically, and just listen to what you are trying to say. Hmm... I guess I should revoke your 24 privileges and make you go sit in time out for hurting trahald10's feelings.
Anyways, I agree with the kill not counting for Jack. The terrorist may have pushed the button before he wanted because Jack was close, but still dead by his own manner. Jack only kicked him out of the train to get away from dieing in the blast and thus saving a train car full of people.
Recently I've been getting a lot of e-mails on this sequence. Personally I don't believe this is a bauer kill. Nasir pressed the button in his hands thus pretty much ending his own life before bauer kicked him out of the train. Now if Jack pressed the button then booted him out of the train I would have counted it no problem.
The man strapped himself with explosives. He was martyr.
Everybody can have their own own criteria for a Bauer kill. I don't really have a "criteria" but I do evaluate each instance and decide. Personally I don't count this one.
I agree, he would've killed himself had Jack not been there.
BUT, you must remember that Jack Bauer WAS there. Had he not been there, the terrorist would've blown up later.
Bauer forced him into pressing the button, knowing that if forced into an altercation, the terrorist would be unsuccessful (which he was anyway).
Thus, it should be deemed a Bauer kill, the suicide would've happened anyways, but at a different time and location along the subway, thus, Bauer's impact and influence on the kill is sufficient enough to say that he did indeed kill him.
I've been tossing around the idea of running a poll though at the end of the current season for the most debated kills (Paul Raines, Dog season 2, Random bomb terrorist season 6, Hewitt season 2)
Again at this point I'm personally not going to count it. Yes Jack was present but it was the explosion that killed him not falling off the train. If Jack just kicked him off the train minus being strapped with explosives I would have counted it a Jack kill. Even if Jack pressed the explosive button then booted him off that would have been a bauer.
In may I'll work on putting a vote together for these kills.You make some good points though.
i think u should definately run a poll on some of these kills espesially paul raines in series 4, but i kinda c how this could be counted as a bauer kill now, cause if jack hadn't been present paul would have probably survived, but in season 6 the arab lunatic with the bomb would have died regardless of jack's presence, am i right any1.